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Usuqa
 Post subject: Woohoo!! Fast glass!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:45 am 
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So today after sitting around all morning like a little kid waiting for Xmas my door bell finally went and u would probably never have seen someone move so fast in there life!!

I get the door.. sign the gadget to get my package and after closing the door dance about like a little girl while making lots of silly happy noises! LOL.

So why???

ill let my pictures tell a little story!

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The bubble!
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The box!
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The lens!
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The lens next to my sigma 24-60 f2.8
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My camera with lens attached! (took using the fz8)

So as u can guess im very happy atm! so am gonna go out visit my mum n little sister try get some photos and maby go out in the snow for a bit.

Btw my first img i took with the new lens.
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This was the lens i took the first 2 photos with.

Time for some fun!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:37 pm 
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Awesome!
That is such a nice lens.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:00 pm 
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Thanks :D...

This was my first time using/holding some pro spec pentax lens and i must say it feels good lol.. nothing like the kit stuff (alltho that was ok to).

The focus ring doesn't turn when the camera focus's and when i turn it.. it has a good range of movement (making it easy to manual focus) and it wont stop turning either (it will just spin if you reach the end of the focus point but u can feel it get there). Its full internal zoom so no moving/extending parts.

This lens kinda made me wish i got the 16-50 DA* instead of my 24-60sigma but well i still love the sigma :D

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:42 pm 
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Yeah, quality glass is a sight to behold lol.
It just feels so right when your holding solid equipment.

Sounds like it works the same way as my Sigma 70-200, they are so nice to use.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:50 am 
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OK I dont get it.

Can somebody please explain what makes that lens so much better than the other? I mean, the difference between that and your fz8 is noticable in the picture but if you'd asked me why then I probably would have made something up about the digital imaging stuff inside the camera but that goes out the window when you put a new lens on an existing camera. Theres no sensors or anything within the lens right? It just allows the light to reach the sensors inside the camera so what makes one lens so different from another?

I can appreciate the fact that size is a definite factor which is why camera phones with their pin head sizes lenses will always be crap by comparison no matter how much people argue about the megapixels but size can only do so much.

Man I'd love a really nice camera but I know I'd hardly use it as we dont get out to places I'd want to take a camera very much. Croydon isnt the kind of place I'd like to walk around in holding a £500 camera. :o)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:38 am 
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Miton.. or the surrouning area's around me isnt the kinda place u wanna walk about with a big cam either lol (neds are us).
I was in glasgow city center the other day shooting a band and relaised i was walking around with over £1500 worth of gear.. im sure ppl would have no problem muggin me for that and probably sell it for a score bag or two lol.


Anyway back on topic...

A lens is the most important part of a camera, Its the lens that renders the image for the sensor to pick up... everything from how many glass elements.. what type of glass, the shape of the aperture blades and how many blades there is.. even the coating on the len's can change the image.
Theres also how the lens will focus (scew drive to connect to in camera motors.. or new lens have einbuilt motors.) Some lens have floating elements controled by gyroscopic sensors to stabilise the image (some cameras just move the sensor for the same effect).

You probably know these things but ill just pretend you don't for a second.

Lens elements with coatings (The better the glass and coatings used.. the more corrected (less distorsion.. flare.. ghosting) you will get on an image.. The better the lens elements and design will give you sharper images, better contrast, better colour rendering and dreamer bokeh (bokeh rendering is based on all elements of the lens design).

Aperture.. This works along with the lens elements. The larger the Fstop (smaller number. ie F1.4 is larger than f2.8) the more light a lens can gather but the more glass you need to capture the light. The aperture blades come in all shapes and sizes, some have 5 and arnt very curved at all (giving you hexagon shapes in out of focus areas when the lens is stopped down.. ie an f1.4 lens at f3 as there is now a hexagon shape blocking the light). Some have 9 blades curved.. some old Russian ones even have like 18 blades. Also when you get to like f11 or so and your shooting at night a 5 blade lens will give you a 10sided starshape from highlights (odd number blades double the star effect) and a 8 sided blade aperture will give you 8). The lower the FStop the bigger the starshape become. If the aperture ring was shaped like heart.. you would get heart shaped out of focus area's (the lens baby composer lets you do this).
Also the larger the fstop.. the less you can have in focus (f1.4 at close range can have someone's eye in focus and there nose out of focus)

Camera sensor.. The larger the sensor the less it can keep in focus at a time (shooting an fz8 with f2.8 and a 1.5x crop dslr.. is like me shooting the same image at f12 or so to have the same area infocus... but i would need a longer shutter speed as ive basicly killed the amount of light getting to the sensor). The larger sensors have much bigger photsites so gather more light with less noise and the larger area of the sensor (just my opinion) helps to make photos feel like they have more depth.

Camera sensors change alot in a short time but len's dont change so much... 40+ year old lens can still render amazing images and better sensors in cameras help capture the image better.. You can get to a point tho when the sensor becomes to good for a lens (as a lens has a resolution to) but generally you lens gets better with each new body you buy. Thats why lens are the best thing to invest money into :)


AS for the diffrence between the two lens i posted a picture off...

One is a sigma 24-60mm f2.8 the other is a pentax DA* 50-135mm f2.8
Both have a totally different focus range..although both can gather the same amount of light (the lens in the fz8 is a f2.8 to f3.5), the sigma uses screw drive which connects to the camera's motor to focus the lens and the pentax has both screwdrive for old camera support and a new ultra sonic motor which is VERY quite and slightly faster. The pentax is also fully weather sealed so i can go out in a proper storm if i wanted to and take photos :P).

When shooting a gig, the sigma lets me to do groups to single person shoots, and the pentax lets me do person to head shots.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:00 am 
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and does your camera annouce you've done this with an Unreal Tournament 'HEAD SHOT!!' because if it doesnt then your camera obviously isnt good enough :D

Wow all that stuff is actually really interesting! I never knew it was that complicated. I especially like the shutter blades stuff as I've often wondered what causes some images to look the way they do.
It would be great to get to play with some different combinations and check all the results out.

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i have an old Helios 44-2 58mm and it renders pretty sharp images but the bokeh can turn crazy swirly :D
link to a shot showing it on flicker
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21692757@N03/2459591067/

I actually have 2 of these lens.. got them the same day at a carbootsale for like £30-40 with a 70-210 vivitar seires 1 f3.5, 28mm hoya f2.8 and a 135mm f2.8 and 2 old cameras lol.

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Wow thats a really weird effect!

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